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#21657: "can't skip my turn although I'm blocked"
#21657: "can't skip my turn although I'm blocked"
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Tarkka kuvaus
• Kopioi/liitä virheilmoitus näytöltäsi, jos sait sellaisen.
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Selitä mitä halusit tehdä, mitä teit ja mitä tapahtui
current move #221... game on hold• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Ole hyvä ja kopioi teksti englanniksi oman kielesi sijasta. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Onko tämä teksti saatavilla käännösjärjestelmässä? Jos on, onko sen käännöksestä yli 24 tuntia?
current move #221... game on hold• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Selitä ehdotuksesti tarkasti ja ytimekkäästi, jotta se on ymmärrettävissä niin helposti kuin mahdollista.
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Mitä näytöllä näkyi kun olit estettynä (Tyhjä ruutu? Osa pelin käyttöliittymästä? Virheilmoitus?)
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Mitä osaa säännöistä BGA:n sovellus ei noudattanut
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Onko sääntörikkomus nähtävillä pelin toistossa? Jos kyllä, mikä on siirron numero?
current move #221... game on hold• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Minkä pelin toiminnon halusit suorittaa?
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Mitä yritit tehdä tämän pelitoiminnon käynnistymiseksi?
current move #221... game on hold• Mitä tapahtui kun yritit tehdä tämän (virheilmoitus, pelin tilapalkin viesti, ...)?
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Missä vaiheessa peliä ongelma ilmeni (mikä oli silloinen pelin ohje)?
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Mitä tapahtui kun yritit tehdä tämän pelin toiminnon (virheilmoitus, pelin tilapalkin viesti, ...)?
current move #221... game on hold• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Kuvaile näyttöongelmaa. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Ole hyvä ja kopioi teksti englanniksi oman kielesi sijasta. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Onko tämä teksti saatavilla käännösjärjestelmässä? Jos on, onko sen käännöksestä yli 24 tuntia?
current move #221... game on hold• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
• Selitä ehdotuksesti tarkasti ja ytimekkäästi, jotta se on ymmärrettävissä niin helposti kuin mahdollista.
I want to skip my turn as moving forward will cause loss of control but I can't do that. I have a speed limit in front of me and the car on the second lane which demands higher gear then the speed limit.
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v84
Raportin historia
26. heinä 2020 9:53 • pabula • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
All other corners worked ok and I was able to skip my turn except this one.
26. heinä 2020 11:28 • diamant • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
You can move your car at speed 5, and the rule requires you to move your car from at least one space when you can.
Too bad for you, but you can’t pass.
Not a bug.
Too bad for you, but you can’t pass.
Not a bug.
26. heinä 2020 13:04 • pabula • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
So why move #204 where blue car could move with speed 3 was not allowed?
That's the same situation
That's the same situation
27. heinä 2020 9:38 • pabula • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
I have found an official FAQ & errata to rules, which confirms my thoughts it's a bug.
Links:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2450459/faq-errata-june-2020
box.bestpractice-publishing.com/d/2c36fa0369d84f34b4d1/
And this is what it says:
Rules Changes
Forcing a LoC using the Overtaking and Minimum move Rules
In order to prevent a detrimental gaming experience where a car can, in the right circumstances,force another player to suffer a loss of control, we are making a change to the « Blocked » rules on page 13:
BLOCKED
Whilst moving, if:
- You cannot reach the Speed necessary to overtake other cars on the track OR
- Moving would cause you to suffer an immediate and unavoidable Loss of Control due to thepresence of another car OR
- You find yourself impeded in some other fashion Then you are considered « Blocked » this turn. Your turn ends immediately in your current spaceand Gear. Flip over your Gear Marker to show you have played your turn this round.
Links:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2450459/faq-errata-june-2020
box.bestpractice-publishing.com/d/2c36fa0369d84f34b4d1/
And this is what it says:
Rules Changes
Forcing a LoC using the Overtaking and Minimum move Rules
In order to prevent a detrimental gaming experience where a car can, in the right circumstances,force another player to suffer a loss of control, we are making a change to the « Blocked » rules on page 13:
BLOCKED
Whilst moving, if:
- You cannot reach the Speed necessary to overtake other cars on the track OR
- Moving would cause you to suffer an immediate and unavoidable Loss of Control due to thepresence of another car OR
- You find yourself impeded in some other fashion Then you are considered « Blocked » this turn. Your turn ends immediately in your current spaceand Gear. Flip over your Gear Marker to show you have played your turn this round.
29. heinä 2020 11:48 • pabula • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
the worst thing is that I can't start new games now :(
31. heinä 2020 4:59 • compte obelète • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
Well, somebody I one of my game Gose like, nope, not playing (when could play something)
31. heinä 2020 10:07 • Phoxtrot • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
This is not as much a bug as working with a previous version of the rules.
I'm not sure how to interpret the faq by the way:
* If the only way to make a first move is to lose control (because of another player's car but unless you have lots of damage on your car that would always be the case), do you have to consider yourself blocked or can you move forward and lose control if you want ?
It is also a bit tricky to develop, you basically have to check if there is a legal move that doesn't involve LOC then try again without cars around.
I'm not sure how to interpret the faq by the way:
* If the only way to make a first move is to lose control (because of another player's car but unless you have lots of damage on your car that would always be the case), do you have to consider yourself blocked or can you move forward and lose control if you want ?
It is also a bit tricky to develop, you basically have to check if there is a legal move that doesn't involve LOC then try again without cars around.
31. heinä 2020 16:47 • pabula • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
I can't move differently then to loose control.
I know there was a rule change and some corners are changed but this one is not.
I remember moving this way was very painful for the other player but that was part of strategy.
I noticed this change immediately and I was sure all corners are changed. It seems this one was omitted.
And this is the same case as other corners so it shouldn't be a problem to develop, isn't it?
And if you say waiting will not help me in this game I will suffer - I was waiting previously as I was in Arena with other top players so loosing a game on top is causing a loss of a lot of points ;)
I know there was a rule change and some corners are changed but this one is not.
I remember moving this way was very painful for the other player but that was part of strategy.
I noticed this change immediately and I was sure all corners are changed. It seems this one was omitted.
And this is the same case as other corners so it shouldn't be a problem to develop, isn't it?
And if you say waiting will not help me in this game I will suffer - I was waiting previously as I was in Arena with other top players so loosing a game on top is causing a loss of a lot of points ;)
31. heinä 2020 21:32 • Borup • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
Just implement a skip button so players always can skip their turn if they want. Then this type of bug never will happen again.
Make sure to make a confirmation. I would hate to click it by a mistake.
Make sure to make a confirmation. I would hate to click it by a mistake.
3. elo 2020 0:23 • ODaly • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
You can't just add a skip button, because cars are normally forced to move if able. Another car forcing you to crash is the only exception when you can skip your turn when you'd otherwise be able to move.
7. elo 2020 0:34 • compte obelète • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
Maybe before the turn, the crash happened, but getting out, you can skip.
31. elo 2020 21:07 • pabula • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
Similar situation:
game: boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=109838811
move #463
In this game the player was not able to skip turn and he lost control of the car.
game: boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=109838811
move #463
In this game the player was not able to skip turn and he lost control of the car.
13. tammi 2021 3:02 • Irather Nottell • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
Examples of conflicting behavior. Not sure if every corner has its own code or if there is some logic with a small mistake in an overall function.
boardgamearena.com/9/rallymangt?table=137780153
Turn taken on 1/12/21 at 6:26 pm, it forced me to move a 3 (or higher) across a 1 line for instant spin.
boardgamearena.com/9/rallymangt?table=137525422
Turn taken 1/10/21 at 3:55 am, it forced me to skip turn instead giving me the option to cross a 1 line in 2nd. It would of wrecked me but not off track, so favorable to skipping turn.
boardgamearena.com/9/rallymangt?table=137780153
Turn taken on 1/12/21 at 6:26 pm, it forced me to move a 3 (or higher) across a 1 line for instant spin.
boardgamearena.com/9/rallymangt?table=137525422
Turn taken 1/10/21 at 3:55 am, it forced me to skip turn instead giving me the option to cross a 1 line in 2nd. It would of wrecked me but not off track, so favorable to skipping turn.
7. maalis 2021 15:42 • o00o_OvO_o00o • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
Also observed this conflicting behavior on table table 150503055 move 701 by blue and 1023 by orange.
Blue was forced to make a move that meant instant loss of control (00), whereas orange was forced to skip their turn, while a move with instant loss of control was also possible. This yielded an unfair advantage to orange during this game.
Blue was forced to make a move that meant instant loss of control (00), whereas orange was forced to skip their turn, while a move with instant loss of control was also possible. This yielded an unfair advantage to orange during this game.
3. touko 2022 20:43 • theclay • Ohjelmoijat eivät ole vielä löytäneet bugia:
Also observed on table 262989468. move 587. Green was forced into a move that resulted in a loss of control due to the presence of Yellow. From page 13 of v1.1 of the rulebook:
Blocked
If at any point during your turn:
- You cannot reach the Speed necessary to overtake the car in front of you OR
- Moving would cause you to suffer an immediate and unavoidable Loss of Control due to the presence of another car OR
- You find yourself impeded in some other fashion
Then you are considered "Blocked" this turn. Your turn ends immediately in your current space and Gear.
If you didn't move, flip over your Gear marker to show you have played your turn this round. If you did move, place a new Gear marker showing the speed you were in when you became blocked.
Blocked
If at any point during your turn:
- You cannot reach the Speed necessary to overtake the car in front of you OR
- Moving would cause you to suffer an immediate and unavoidable Loss of Control due to the presence of another car OR
- You find yourself impeded in some other fashion
Then you are considered "Blocked" this turn. Your turn ends immediately in your current space and Gear.
If you didn't move, flip over your Gear marker to show you have played your turn this round. If you did move, place a new Gear marker showing the speed you were in when you became blocked.
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- Toinen pöydän tunnus / siirron numero
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