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#25666: "Be inclusive by adding gender options and pronoun options"
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There are many board gamers who can speak to their own stories of dealing with varying forms of discrimination and unpleasant environments. As such BoardGameArena should strive to be as inclusive as possible to attract all kinds of board gamers. And from a business perspective, more board gamers means more board games and more money for BGA, so everyone wins.
[b]Add Gender Options[/b]
To that note, BGA needs to add more gender options. At the very least, BGA should add the following gender options:
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[*] Nonbinary
[*] Other/write your own
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[b]Add Pronoun Options[/b]
Furthermore, BGA should also add pronoun options because not everyone uses the pronouns typically associated with the gender they choose. As such, BGA should add at least these options:
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[*] She/her/hers
[*] They/them/theirs
[*] He/him/his
[*] Custom
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[*] Subject pronoun (she/they/he equivalent):
[*] Object pronoun (her/them/him equivalent):
[*] Possessive pronoun (hers/theirs/his equivalent):
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[b]Prior Discussions and Suggestions[/b]
This issue has been brought up before in a few different cases, so there is clearly interest from the current community. And once this is implemented, it will help grow the community even further. There are people who do not wish to join because of this lack of inclusion.
Please upvote this and the following to help make this community more inclusive!
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[*] Discussion: boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17064
[*] Suggestion: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=20056
[*] Suggestion: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=17226
[*] Suggestion: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=25663
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3. loka 2020 0:08 • merlin they them • Kehittäjät eivät ole vielä tutkineet tätä ehdotusta:
See above
9. loka 2020 20:58 • dhnyny • Kehittäjät eivät ole vielä tutkineet tätä ehdotusta:
Alternatively, eliminate the gender-identification setting altogether.
26. marras 2020 15:59 • hansaplatz • Kehittäjät eivät ole vielä tutkineet tätä ehdotusta:
A gender neutral option (they/them) would certainly be good to include, but it would also be useful to make gender inclusivity an overall policy for the website that you also make developers aware of, so that they don't hardcode a specific gender into games to avoid individual games failing to be inclusive.
2. helmi 2021 1:12 • kerinbot • Kehittäjät eivät ole vielä tutkineet tätä ehdotusta:
Not all gamers are male.
It shouldn't have to be said, but there it is.
Not only are some female, but some are non-binary and some are fluid. And there are a lot more non male Gamers out there than you may realize.
If you don't wish to program in multiple pronoun options, I suggest that all pronouns be simply replaced with the emerging non-object, nonspecific gender pronouns "they, their, them, theirs."
This language is becoming used in official government documents and many other places, all over the English-speaking world.
Seems like that would be the simplest solution.
AND it would make the board more likely to grow, as it would not only please the many, many people already on the board who are hoping for this, but would ALSO prevent the board from discouraging, literally turning away, those who find themselves being(not so) subtly socially erased & excluded .
PLEASE make this simple, but effective change to improve the inclusive and welcoming potential of the onboard gaming culture.
Thanks! :)
It shouldn't have to be said, but there it is.
Not only are some female, but some are non-binary and some are fluid. And there are a lot more non male Gamers out there than you may realize.
If you don't wish to program in multiple pronoun options, I suggest that all pronouns be simply replaced with the emerging non-object, nonspecific gender pronouns "they, their, them, theirs."
This language is becoming used in official government documents and many other places, all over the English-speaking world.
Seems like that would be the simplest solution.
AND it would make the board more likely to grow, as it would not only please the many, many people already on the board who are hoping for this, but would ALSO prevent the board from discouraging, literally turning away, those who find themselves being(not so) subtly socially erased & excluded .
PLEASE make this simple, but effective change to improve the inclusive and welcoming potential of the onboard gaming culture.
Thanks! :)
27. maalis 2021 21:40 • idjy • Kehittäjät eivät ole vielä tutkineet tätä ehdotusta:
I'd love a neutral "unicorn" option as 4th choice :)
16. kesä 2021 9:26 • Een • Tämä ehdotus on toteutettu:
"Do not display" already covers neutral (pronoun replacement by a neutral form if available, as described here: forum.boardgamearena.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=21387).
The preferences wording has been changed for more clarity.
The preferences wording has been changed for more clarity.
16. kesä 2021 14:49 • merlin they them • Tämä ehdotus on toteutettu:
"Do not display" does not cover more gender options. It may cover pronoun replacement but it is insulting that you have options for "woman" and "man" but you do not have an option for nonbinary. "Do not display" is not the same thing as nonbinary
19. maalis 2023 8:43 • cigma • Tämä ehdotus on toteutettu:
merlin they then said: "you do not have an option for nonbinary", probably referrring to the neutral "they/them/their" in English. But there are other languages which don't have this possibility.
3. joulu 2023 15:36 • Livini • Tämä ehdotus on toteutettu:
cigma, I think merlin they them was referring to the gender options on your profile, not pronouns coded into the games.
I personally think adding more pronoun options in-game would be too much work for the developers to code, and I think it's great that gender-neutral pronouns are an option.
But I agree that the gender options you can choose in your profile are lacking. merlin is right. 'Do not display' is for people like me who don't want the whole internet to know their gender and/or don't think it matters enough to put it online. A 'Nonbinary' option would be for nonbinary people who DO want to share their gender with the internet. It could come with an icon like the male and female options. And changing the way the profile settings work would probably be a lot less work than changing the coding of the games.
I personally think adding more pronoun options in-game would be too much work for the developers to code, and I think it's great that gender-neutral pronouns are an option.
But I agree that the gender options you can choose in your profile are lacking. merlin is right. 'Do not display' is for people like me who don't want the whole internet to know their gender and/or don't think it matters enough to put it online. A 'Nonbinary' option would be for nonbinary people who DO want to share their gender with the internet. It could come with an icon like the male and female options. And changing the way the profile settings work would probably be a lot less work than changing the coding of the games.
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