#76260: "Incorrect middle wait (2 fu) bug"
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Tarkka kuvaus
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• Kopioi/liitä virheilmoitus näytöltäsi, jos sait sellaisen.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• Selitä mitä halusit tehdä, mitä teit ja mitä tapahtui
Move 164
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Ole hyvä ja kopioi teksti englanniksi oman kielesi sijasta. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• Onko tämä teksti saatavilla käännösjärjestelmässä? Jos on, onko sen käännöksestä yli 24 tuntia?
Move 164
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Selitä ehdotuksesti tarkasti ja ytimekkäästi, jotta se on ymmärrettävissä niin helposti kuin mahdollista.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Mitä näytöllä näkyi kun olit estettynä (Tyhjä ruutu? Osa pelin käyttöliittymästä? Virheilmoitus?)
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Mitä osaa säännöistä BGA:n sovellus ei noudattanut
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• Onko sääntörikkomus nähtävillä pelin toistossa? Jos kyllä, mikä on siirron numero?
Move 164
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Minkä pelin toiminnon halusit suorittaa?
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• Mitä yritit tehdä tämän pelitoiminnon käynnistymiseksi?
Move 164
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• Mitä tapahtui kun yritit tehdä tämän (virheilmoitus, pelin tilapalkin viesti, ...)?
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Missä vaiheessa peliä ongelma ilmeni (mikä oli silloinen pelin ohje)?
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• Mitä tapahtui kun yritit tehdä tämän pelin toiminnon (virheilmoitus, pelin tilapalkin viesti, ...)?
Move 164
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Kuvaile näyttöongelmaa. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Ole hyvä ja kopioi teksti englanniksi oman kielesi sijasta. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. -
• Onko tämä teksti saatavilla käännösjärjestelmässä? Jos on, onko sen käännöksestä yli 24 tuntia?
Move 164
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
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• Selitä ehdotuksesti tarkasti ja ytimekkäästi, jotta se on ymmärrettävissä niin helposti kuin mahdollista.
I had 5 6 6 7 8 Circles in my hand with a open red dragon pung. My opponent threw the 7 on which i could Ron, but according to the scoring I scored 2 fu for a middle weight (6 _ 8), but I could also win on the 4 (_ 5 6 _ was my actual plan, since I had already the 6 7 8).
Effectively the endresult wasn't affected, 24 or 26 fu all round up to 30, but it could have mattered. • Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v107
Raportin historia
Hans and fus are treated as the highest scoring form based on the final result regardless of other waits.
For example, with a hand of 1234456AAABBB, ron on 7 does not add 2 fu as the wait must be 4-7 open.
However, ron on 1/4 adds 2 fu as it can be considered as 1/4 single wait.
And then, with a hand of 1234456ABCDEF, ron on 4 is now treated as 0 fu as treating the wait as 4-7 open adds pinfu and becomes the highest scoring form instead.
"Hans and fus are treated as the highest scoring form..." (This part yes, eg. you score Double identical Chows instead of 7 pairs, same structure, but a fan difference) "...based on the final result regardless of other waits." This latter part is unknown to me and on tournaments, people never get extra points if it rulewise can be prohibbited, in simple terms, you either have (truely) 1 possibility or you don't (theoretical or not, even if all tiles of one possibity are all on the table). This argument is always used and accepted by everybody).
Your last example, yes your last example Pinfu is awared (if applicable, ABCDEF being 2 chows too and the closing pair is already in hand as is the case), but let say Riichi been declared and ABC being a pung, then the winner never gets 2 fu (on the 1 - 4 - 7).
I don't want to argue, and i'm glad with the implementation, the dispute is only game altering in the case of from 20 to 22 (30 to 32 etc), but i don't think 99,9% of the cases people don't explicitly play for these 2 fu, so 3 cheers for those who do and get a better score.
I will pose this particular question to the EMA and their response, because a couple of years ago they tried to play according to as the Japanese do (with help from the Japanese), so they disbanded red 5's and little nuances which were allowed on EMA tournaments and was not according to Japanese play.
If i know more i will come back.
"The 2 minipoints for edge, closed or single wait can be claimed even if the hand is waiting for other tiles"
"The highest-scoring possibility decides which set is finished by the winning tile. Consider the following waiting
pattern".
As you said.
My apologies for the ruckus. This bug report can be closed.
Happy playing,
gilthe
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- Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
