#88962: "Undo?"
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Tarkka kuvaus
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• Kopioi/liitä virheilmoitus näytöltäsi, jos sait sellaisen.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Selitä mitä halusit tehdä, mitä teit ja mitä tapahtui
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Ole hyvä ja kopioi teksti englanniksi oman kielesi sijasta. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Onko tämä teksti saatavilla käännösjärjestelmässä? Jos on, onko sen käännöksestä yli 24 tuntia?
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Selitä ehdotuksesti tarkasti ja ytimekkäästi, jotta se on ymmärrettävissä niin helposti kuin mahdollista.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Mitä näytöllä näkyi kun olit estettynä (Tyhjä ruutu? Osa pelin käyttöliittymästä? Virheilmoitus?)
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Mitä osaa säännöistä BGA:n sovellus ei noudattanut
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Onko sääntörikkomus nähtävillä pelin toistossa? Jos kyllä, mikä on siirron numero?
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Minkä pelin toiminnon halusit suorittaa?
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Mitä yritit tehdä tämän pelitoiminnon käynnistymiseksi?
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• Mitä tapahtui kun yritit tehdä tämän (virheilmoitus, pelin tilapalkin viesti, ...)?
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Missä vaiheessa peliä ongelma ilmeni (mikä oli silloinen pelin ohje)?
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Mitä tapahtui kun yritit tehdä tämän pelin toiminnon (virheilmoitus, pelin tilapalkin viesti, ...)?
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Kuvaile näyttöongelmaa. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Ole hyvä ja kopioi teksti englanniksi oman kielesi sijasta. Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Onko tämä teksti saatavilla käännösjärjestelmässä? Jos on, onko sen käännöksestä yli 24 tuntia?
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
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• Selitä ehdotuksesti tarkasti ja ytimekkäästi, jotta se on ymmärrettävissä niin helposti kuin mahdollista.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• Mikä on selaimesi?
Google Chrome v113
Raportin historia
A: Add a "Return to start of Local phase" button, available only when new cards haven't been revealed.
+ Fairly straightforward
- Other players can undo your actions
- Any sort of R+D disables this
B: Add a "Undo actions since other players' most recent action or since you last drew cards" button
+ Fairly reliable in a turn-based game
- Fairly useless in a real-time game
- Even just the description of that button can tell you that it's going to be frustrating to use
C: Add a smart "Undo all of my actions" button that doesn't undo anything affecting other players
+ This would be pretty nice
- This would be really hard
D: Add an "Undo most recent action" button, with no option to undo further than that
+ Relatively simple, probably meets most players' needs
+ Probably unnecessary to consider what other players have done since; we can disable the button if the most recent action gave a card to another player or revealed new cards
- Players will definitely ask for more
- Rolling back just part of the game state is still very difficult even for atomic actions
Undo is a feature we wanted from the beginning, but the game's format makes it less feasible to implement for the reasons Mogri described. If you'd like to discuss some options, let's email directly and brainstorm together.
Option D is what I'd hoped for and would be really valuable in terms of player experience.
By the nature of the game, many actions will prevent you from undoing your action. These include tucking a card under a global or crisis card (because other players' action may gain bonuses after that point), changes that affect the board such as adding cubes to the thermometer, transferring cards or communities in crisis to/from other players, and many more actions. Basically, actions that have an effect on other players' actions cannot be undone.
As you play around with the new undo system, hopefully you can help us decide whether it's an improvement or whether it creates confusion. While we're certain that a more expansive version of undo will always be requested, we've already made efforts to allow it in every feasible situation (it even undiscards cards that you have spent if they're still in the discard pile). Consequently, we've reached the limit of the undo option and we're now evaluating whether the new system will be beneficial for players in its current state.
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- Jos sinulla on kuvankaappaus tästä bugista, voit käyttää Imgur.com:a sen lähettämiseksi. Kopioi ja liitä linkki tähän.
