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Convention: Agreed set of clue, play and discard interpretations.
- e.g. a number clue that marks the chop card should be interpreted as a unique card save (if there is a unique card of that number).
As there is a wide variety of conventions, including variations of the most common "Finesse" convention, any edits to the help and tips pages need to be discussed in the Hanabi forum to reach a consensus. --Sammy McSam (talk)
Keep convention definitions simple
I don't see the reason to push here a set of conventions that very few players use. Of course the discussion of which conventions are ``best is interesting, but it's definitely misleading if it appears in a wiki targeted to novices.
To the best of my knowledge, very few people use this wiki in any case, but I think we are doing them a disservice if we give them a set of conventions that will not help them while playing, and will create misunderstandings when, for example, people play cards just because they've been skipped while the intent is almost always to either let them play or induce them to discard because they have a trash/duplicate card in chop. Bobtables (talk)
Conventions list update
Summary of Proposed changes:
Conventions
- Merge "Standard" (which was never properly defined) into the "Finesse" section.
- Move "Save clue" above "Play clue" since it has higher priority in clue interpretation.
- Met players recently who don't seem to understand that save has priority over play.
- Add a new save clue example.
- Remove avalanche fix clue (extraction) example and group the simpler example with the other examples.
- Move Long finesse & Layered finesse examples from Tips page to Help page.
- Definitions: it occurred to me that the concept of "bluff seat" is actually very unhelpful when learning about how bluffs work, and in fact H-Group created the concept because they do not allow distant bluffs at all. On BGA it is possible to bluff a player that is not next to them.
- I suggest either adding a note that it is an H-Group concept or removing it completely.
Options
- Update conventions list with definitions.
- Move other conventions into a new "Other conventions" section.
- Remove "Chop-focus" 'convention' which was never really a convention.
- The new H-Group option is likely what players meant by chop-focus (I'm making an assumption here)?
Cheating
- Rename "Cheating" section to "Chat".
- There is minimal incentive to cheat at Hanabi now that ELO is hidden.
- Explain how chat can influence players moves.
ELO rating
- Move to the end since ELO is mostly hidden and therefore rather inconsequential.
- Collapse all examples in wiki page view for a better overview
--Sammy McSam (talk)